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So, somewhere around episode 14 or so, TOS gets really AWESOME.

In Real Life news, I appear to have an apartment in Seattle, or at least, I ought to, for sometime around July 11th or so. More on that tomorrow.

So, in iCarly news, the fandom sucks donkey balls, apparently Dan killed it, and it's my fault, and so, I've been taking basically a sabbatical from it. Instead, I've been dicking around with the Star Trek people. Folks on ONTD_startrek and the xi kink meme and the fanart meme and the chekov/sulu people and the genfic people. Guess what? THEY ARE ALL AWESOME. They are the sweetest, silliest, best people ever. They are all MATURE, KIND individuals with VERY little self-concern. And NOBODY CARES WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK. It's fantastic.

Frankly, iCarly shit was beyond tiresome. The show, while good, flat out doesn't deserve the time and creative energies I was spending on it. And the people? Jesus, the people. Well, I've run into a small handful of iCarly people over in the ST corner of the internet, and guess what? Basically the only people worth their salt in iCarly land are THERE TOO.

I know that I was ready to pull away from iCarly fandom since February or so. But Dan's arrival prolonged my stay. I'm not flouncing, nor am I giving up on the whole shebang entirely. But frankly, I was a BNF for four months and that was goddamn enough of that. I'd love to keep up my friendship with Dan Schneider, but we've been talking less and less lately, and he's been interacting less and less with the fandom. He and I have a lot in common, on a personality-type level, and I would like to just be his regular friend, but the vast majority of our conversation is on iCarly, and as of late, he has offered extremely little else for me to go off of. I have nothing to talk about to him! Today, there's a new episode. If it's crap, I'll give him whatfor, but other than that... meh. I just don't really care about it right now.

And the thing is, I probably won't start to care all that much again for a while. I'm right in the middle of a very highly structured, delineated fanfic, and I have no intention of continuing it. I'll finish my OTHER one, the one that is good, Cruise Control. I've been wanting more and more to bang it out, to get it finished, to sacrifice all of its tertiary goals for the big main two: lock in the elemental metaphors I'm trying to express, and the other interpersonal storyline that is apparently, actually about Sam's mom. I'll get to that, you'll see. But as or this Romeo & Juliet fic, fuck it. If suddenly, iCarly is good again, and I'm struck with inspiration, sure. I'll write it. But the fandom, as a whole? I retreat. I shut myself up. I sacrifice the fen to the 15 year old girls who don't have the first inkling of fandom history and tradition, because, honestly, I'm too stodgy for this shit.

I retreat to my corner, with the Vulcans and the sex pollen, to where tradition reigns and people are finding new, cheerful, positive expressions of their affiliation. There's something about Star Trek, you know? Trek is always so POSITIVE. It's always full of so much hope! Even when shit happens, humanity has still overcome enough problems to get to the stars. In iCarly, people are so mean that a full grown man is locked in a basement by an 11 year old boy, for fun, all weekend, and nobody rescues him by the end of the episode. I don't know that that is the sandbox I want to play in anymore.

oh yeah, and I want to buy this hat, probably in the natural color.


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Jun. 13th, 2009 01:47 pm (UTC)
ontd_startrek is pretty much like my own internet Disneyland. It's the happiest place on earth! I hate to see iCarly fandom go south because I still have a love for the show. But, yeah, the fandom is kind of...well...I don't even know how to explain it, really. There are people in the fandom that make me not want to be involved with it, to be blunt.

Good for the apartment! Or...you having one, I guess is what I mean?

And the hat, I would wear it in toast.
Jun. 13th, 2009 10:45 pm (UTC)
There are people in the fandom that make me not want to be involved with it, to be blunt.

Well, it's a combination of that, and more like, the way people interact with the canon and each other that gives me absolutely no motivation to GAF. But also, it's that, Dan's in the fandom, lurks everywhere (and yes, has even read some fanfic, though i won't tell you what, although his reaction was mostly "LOL") and yet, people are like "HE IS WATCHING ME OMG MIZU IS IN CAHOOTS WITH HIM WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE" So I feel guilty and mad and this combination of shit that sucks. I can't even make a post on the GS about how I won the UFO awards because apparently that would be "presumptuous" or some shit. And SORRIES but ship war? You bet your ASS there's a ship war going down. It's just all passive aggressive bullshit and I HATE IT ARGH. *breathes*

ontd_startrek is the best, and I'm very involved in the ontdst AIM chat, hahaha. I keep trying to think of things and way to contribute. I'm sure i'll hit on something good again soon. Internet Disneyland is a good way to put it! It's just super super fun and everybody gets along and heart everywhere!

More on the apartment later.
Jun. 13th, 2009 01:58 pm (UTC)
:/ Sorry about iCarly fandom. You seem pretty ready to split entirely, but I always get vaguely disappointed when it's time for me to leave a fandom.
Jun. 13th, 2009 10:47 pm (UTC)
Thanks. It's weirder than that though because I refuse to flounce and I have a good amount of loose ends.
This past year has been a weird one, I've been more directly involved in fandom more this year than at any other time in my life, really. So as I finally break out of my denial-cocoon and get a life, I have to stop being so fandom-active, and it's hard to do.
Jun. 13th, 2009 03:58 pm (UTC)
*hugs ONTD ST*

here's something about Star Trek, you know? Trek is always so POSITIVE. It's always full of so much hope! Even when shit happens, humanity has still overcome enough problems to get to the stars.

THIS. This is why I love Star Trek, and why I am overcome with happiness every time I hear their opening theme. XD
Jun. 13th, 2009 10:49 pm (UTC)
Yes! Yes! Sometimes, my BFF and I will just spontaneously break out with the monologue. "These are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise..." and it is immensely cheering, every damn time. Especially since we're all about TNG, so we get to say it in Patrick-Stewart-Voice, and just thinking about that gives me a girlboner. :P
Jun. 13th, 2009 06:31 pm (UTC)
I'm obviously not involved enough in ANY fandom, so I don't know about all these faults iCarly's has. I'd guess there'd be 15 year old girls, and I remember you talking about people who get made when Spencer gets hurt or something... and that's just ridiculous.

I just skim posts and go along my day at The Groovy Smoothie so that's probably the extent of my "fandom-ish" actions. And I'm ok with that, especially considering what you have written here.

In other news, PLEASE finish Cruise Control. It's the only fic I read and I NEED IT.

Yay west coast! I live way down south but Seattle would be amazing to live in. Mostly because of the weather I would be in heaven.
Jun. 13th, 2009 10:57 pm (UTC)
Really, the only fic you read? Yeesh. Well, okay then, for you.

What it is is it's a generational clash. I might be younger (24) but culturally, I was raised and trained in the ways of classic 70s and 80s geekery. Fandom then and fandom now are two different constructs. We conduct ourselves differently. We have different morals and different goals. Different ways of interacting with whatever source material it is that we are being fans about. And I know that I am an outlier. I don't belong in the group. So instead of trying to be a voice of reason or an awesome contributor, I'm just going to step off and get out of the whole thing. Slowly.
Jun. 13th, 2009 11:34 pm (UTC)
For me? Aw you shouldn't... but you should.
Jun. 14th, 2009 01:09 am (UTC)
I hear ya about the iCarly fandom stuff. It's just...well, for one thing, populated by mostly preteens with no previous fandom experience. *shrugs*

That hat is amazing. You always have great taste. XD
Jun. 14th, 2009 01:12 am (UTC)
right? even the MODS, who ARENT preteens, don't seem to have a clue how shit is done.

But I realize that that isn't the case! It's just that they do it DIFFERENTLY and it isn't my place to object to that.

The episode tonight was pretty good, if a bit predictable. If I start to miss iCarly terribly, I might try establishing my own little stodgy old people corner, i dont know.
Jun. 15th, 2009 04:00 am (UTC)
Really? I don't think the mods do such a bad job--yeah, maybe they could mod more, but I think that was just sort of the point in the beginning, to have a pretty un-moderated community...I don't think they were expecting it would get so, you know, big. XD

Gah, I missed it!
Jul. 4th, 2009 03:18 am (UTC)
I know this is a bit late, but I hadn't seen this until recently coz I haven't been around LJ as much.

Anywhoo, I'm a relative newbie when it comes to the iCarly fandom, so all the history of the fandom and the "famous" fandom members and all that stuff sort of flies over my head and yeah, there are some people on the GS (not the pre-teens actually) who kinda bug me a little, not gonna lie, but I guess I'm not the best person to be able to relate to how you feel. Still, I just wanted to say, I feel sad that you're kinda over iCarly, coz I thought of you as one of the more insightful Seddie fans. I get it, though. We all go through our phases.

While I love iCarly and Seddie, I guess I never get bugged by the "fandom" as such because I'm not overly attached to it in the first place. Yeah I post on the GS, but I post in a whole bunch of other places as well, so I don't feel particularly connected to any particular one. I see my love for iCarly as a separate thing from my involvement in the fandom, so the fandom bugging me isn't something that would affect my love for the show.

A passive-agressive ship war? I guess, that's true. I dunno, I'm just always in my happy little Seddie corner where it's mostly sunshine and rainbows and cute bunnies. Though people freaking out over Sam and Spencer even sharing the same air-space has ruined Sam/Spencer scenes for me a little, so that's my only shipper related gripe.
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